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  • theoblivinator
    started a topic Individual Level Fast Strategies

    Individual Level Fast Strategies

    So I've been working on figuring out the fastest way to beat each level of the campaign. I've learned the first seven missions and I'm going to continue with mission 8 (Tombs of the Ancients) after I post this. I was wondering if there are any other players out there that like to do this sort of stuff. To me figuring out the fastest and most efficient way to finish a level provides a lot of enjoyment and tactical planning. So anyone else here work on this kinda stuff?

    Right now I'm playing on Easy difficulty (would like to jump up to Classic later). Seems to me the best strategy so far is to spam LAVs in the first few missions, then once you can build Railguns you start to spam those hardcore. You can use the LAVs to circle around and distract the enemy ships, allowing you to bring your Railguns into range so they can annihilate the enemy (often backed by three waves of strike fighters too!). A lot of times you don't need to focus on destroying all the enemy ships, often your objective is to just destroy the Production Cruiser or Siege Cruiser, or whatever it happens to be in that mission.

    I haven't figured out a way to skip cutscenes (which is rather annoying) but I have found out that during a sensor manager cutscene where fleet intel is pointing out your objective or whatever, you can still control your ships and issue commands, and even attack! A good example of this is in mission 3 (Cape wrath), once Rachel brings the artifact back to the command carrier, you can have all your units wait near the position where the enemy production cruiser will spawn, and during the cutscene where the artifact improves your sensor manager, you can select your units to attack the production cruiser and even destroy it before the cutscene finishes lol. This automatically completes the objective of destroying the production cruiser and then you immediately see the cutscene with the production cruiser getting destroyed and all the other ships retreating.

    There's a couple other little things I have found. Haven't found any glitches yet that could speed up a mission, but I'm still looking for some. So whats up? Anyone else interesting in looking for this stuff with me?

  • BBI-iain
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    Nicely done! If I had more time I would definitely give this a try sometime.

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  • theoblivinator
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    2 hours, 11 mins, and 53 seconds is my new game time world record. 2 hours, 19 mins, and 1 sec is my new real time world record.

    So. This run. This was the first game run I've done since Midwest Speedfest. I didn't do much practicing, maybe 2 hours at most. And I still managed to beat my record by 1 min and 38 seconds. I am not happy about it. It makes it seem like all the hard work I did the achieve my previous record wasn't really all that great since I could just come out of nowhere with barely any practice and smash it. It even shows in my splits were I was around 40 seconds behind and still managed to come back. So I have to do a little digging to find out why I was able to save so much time on a few missions.

    Here is my initial theory:
    I collected two artifacts in Kalash Wreck that I normally skip. I figured it was safe to collect these since it doesn't cost any time from completing the mission, just a little bit of resource harvesting time. The two artifacts I collected turned out to improve ranged units, mainly Railguns. In missions where I used loads of Railguns (like the Whispering Gallery), they were more buffed than usual allowing me to complete those missions much quicker than normal. Essentially I believe I got lucky on what artifacts I collected and cheesed my way into a new record because of it.

    So that is why I'm unhappy with the new record. But this just means I'm not done yet. I need to dig into this game a little more, work out artifacts and better strategies and smash the record even more. Right now my sum of best is around 2 hours and 9 mins, so it is amazing to see that I can break another 5 min threshold (with sub 2:15 being the last one I broke). So with all that said, stay tuned for more.

    Also if anyone can figure out why my load times for this game have increased after doing a fresh windows install that would be swell. It's pretty crazy that I spent 1 min and 38 seconds less playing the game missions, yet i only saved 9 seconds in real time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbwM2RBA8d0

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  • theoblivinator
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    I put up a video on my youtube channel yesterday. It is a compilation of some funny moments I've captured while speedrunning this game. It was pretty fun to put together. Check it out!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVTyfe3bmu0

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  • theoblivinator
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    Here's the picture of my splits. I tried to upload it into my previous post but it wasn't working for some reason.

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  • theoblivinator
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    2 hours, 13 mins, and 31 seconds is my new game time record. 2 hours, 19 mins, and 10 sec is the new real time record.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFhdXVXLfCI

    I've finally made the change to rank this game based off of game time instead of real time as outlined in my previous post. The leaderboard reflects this change as well. Again you can view it here:

    http://www.speedrun.com/Homeworld_Deserts_of_Kharak

    Anyways this is the kind of run I've been waiting for. It has been around 3 months or so since I had a significant PB like this. I've been playing when I could for around three weeks, mostly on the weekends, and I was getting discouraged since I completed about five runs and still hadn't gotten a 2:20. Well I skipped 2:20 and went straight to 2:19 (shoutouts to Ryan Lockwood). The only disappointing thing about this run is Tombs of the Ancients and The Whispering Gallery not going as fast as they could have. Had I done well on those missions this could have easily been a 2:18, but we will save that for another day. Overall the run was very smooth and I can't think of any major hiccups. Obviously there are small things to optimize still and luck still plays a factor into this run quite a bit (the two artifacts I collected were absolute garbage in this run), but I'm satisfied with my time as of right now.

    For the future I will be practicing for my Fleet Fest run, working on commentary and gameplay. And then I want to learn some other speedruns and maybe after that I will come back to DOK and try and go for a 2:16 or better. We will see.

    That's all folks, I'll keep in touch and stay tuned for more.

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  • theoblivinator
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    Here's a quick update video I made the other day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AqT0cxIIQ0

    The major points if you don't feel like watching:

    1.) Payday from the Homeworld Universe Discord created an Auto-Splitter and Load-Time Remover for this game. It is directly integrated into Live Split. The auto-splitter will split after each mission on it's own; no need for you to split manually. The load time will pause Live Split's timer during load times which removes any sort of pay-to-win aspects of speedrunning this game.

    2.) Because we can track game time easily now, the speedrun.com leaderboard for this game will be changed to reflect this. There will be two columns; one for time with loads and one for time without loads. The leaderboard will be ranked based on the time without loads obviously.

    3.) I achieved a new PB/WR for this game. The new time is 2:21:00 real time, 2:15:27 game time. I didn't upload this run to Youtube or to speedrun.com because it is very sloppy and I'm not satisfied with it. I know I'll beat this record and when I get a run I'm satisfied, I'll make the change to speedrun.com and upload it to Youtube obviously. Unless someone beats me too it. ;-)

    4.) I also made a topic about this, but DoK was accepted into the Fleet Fest speedrunning marathon which will be happening in two weeks. You can check the schedule here: https://horaro.org/fleetfest/fleetfest and see if you are able to watch my run DoK live!

    That's all folks, stay tuned for more!

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  • theoblivinator
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    On 1/8/27 we had our first DOK race. We raced through the first five missions of the campaign on SRL. Thank you very much Tren and ROMaster2 for racing with me, it was a lot of fun. Here are the results:

    http://www.speedrunslive.com/races/g...homeworlddok/1

    I recorded my portion and you can watch it below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ayRYttu-Qk

    Stay tuned for more DOK speedrun content. Right now I'm working getting a 2:19 or better.

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  • theoblivinator
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    2 hours, 21 mins, and 26 seconds is now my new record.

    This run had a slow start. Something went wrong in Cape Wrath which triggered the prompt to repair the abandoned railguns and research railgun tech, something I've been skipping in every run before this. I don't know what caused it to prompt, but it cost me around 10 seconds. Beladin Dune Sea went better than my last PB, but it is still no where near as fast as I've done it in the past, so there can be improvement there. Gaalsien Base could have also gone faster, but I'm happy I didn't lose time on that mission. The rest of the run went amazing after that. I had no idea I could save so much time on The Whispering Gallery, it really blew my mind when I saw the time I was beating that mission at. I don't know what caused the huge time save, I guess the enemy units played right into my hand perfectly. It will be a tough time to beat in the future. Khashar Approach, much like Beladin Dune Sea went better, but not as good as it could be. I seem to struggle with the Cruise Missile on that mission. I can nail the timing and position down perfectly 10 out of 10 times in practice, but when I do a run I seem to be off by just a bit, its frustrating. Torin Crater and Khar-Toba played as expected, I knew I could save a considerable amount of time on those missions.

    I'm happy to see my sum of best segments be so close to sub 2:20. My goal is to obtain a 2:19 time for this game, which will require a lot more practice and grinding runs (to put into perspective, this run took about 2 months of practice on and off, and three weeks worth of attempts).

    Like always I've attached my splits and Youtube link to the run. Stay tuned!

    https://youtu.be/q2Ogf3gZIJQ

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  • theoblivinator
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    My tutorial playlist is complete. You can check it out here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cau5...bhyXRbo7JpyISo

    Anyone who wishes to speedrun this game with me should now have all the tools needed to do so!

    While making these tutorial videos, there were two or three missions that I PB'd while making videos for them. This leads me to believe that I can still save several minutes on my current run and I will be practicing and doing attempts soon, probably starting later this week. I've also recently joined a RTS Speedrunning discord and have had several conversations regarding this game with other RTS speedrunners who have given me a few tricks and ideas to test out. Hopefully there will be more strategies found shortly! Stay tuned!

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  • theoblivinator
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    I have started a video playlist on youtube that contains speedrunning tutorial videos for this game. Check it out here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=P...&v=cau5u3w_JJE

    There will be a speedrun race of DoK on SRL hopefully in early November between Ragnarok and myself currently. Anyone else is welcome to join. Check back on this thread, my twitter, my Youtube Channel, and the Homeworld Discord for more information if interested in racing with us. If not it should be a cool thing to watch.

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  • theoblivinator
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    2 hours, 24 mins, and 35 seconds is now my new record.

    This is the run I had been waiting for. I had been practicing for a little less than a month; working on new strategies and refining my current ones. I was honestly shocked to see at how fast I was going in the last few missions; I completely shattered my estimates of about 1.5-2 mins. This run also took about two days worth of attempts to achieve. Overall the run is pretty clean with just a few hiccups. Beladin Dune Sea was pretty sloppy, Tombs of the Ancients had some issues with CU/RU harvesting (AKA NONE HAPPENED BECAUSE THE SALVAGERS ARE STUPID), and Khashar Approach was sloppy too (didn't have a single Assault Cruiser). But everything else was really clean and I am happy with it.

    I don't have any plans right now to push the time down further even though it can be. I don't think it is worth it at this time to push for like another minute of improvement or not, we will have to see.I want to continue to look for new strategies, finish my guide for this game, and do some more individual levels. If new strategies are discovered that can significantly improve this time I will work on it again.

    I've attached my splits and the Youtube link to the video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZQ2FkN-uYg

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  • theoblivinator
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    I did my first IL speedrun of mission six. I completed the mission in 6 mins and 37 secs using the in-game timer. I chose Beladin Dune Sea because it has some cool strategies that I like to show off. This is the fastest time I've ever completed this mission. I believe I could save around 5-6 seconds more with really good rng and if the AI behaved. If something substantial was found perhaps even more time could be saved. I want to do a few more of these in the future on some of my other favorite missions. Check out the video in the link below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8VJcy3QI8Q

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  • theoblivinator
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    2 hours, 28 mins, and 27 seconds is now my new record.

    This run had a sloppy start in the first few missions due to me playing poorly and also a bit of bad luck on Kalash Site. It managed to get my act together and smashed the middle missions to bring my time down and then a new strategy for Torin Crater allowed me to destroy my old record. My goal for this game was to get below 2 hours and 30 mins and I have achieved that. I'm not going to press for a much lower time unless some new strategies are discovered. Right now I'm working on a guide/tutorial for the campaign and a run that is much cleaner than this one and I'm proud of it. That would be my final run for this game.

    Huge shoutouts to twitch user XNTricity, a BBI Dev, that showed me the new Torin Crater strategy that allowed me to beat that mission very quickly. I can't believe I didn't think to try that myself. It makes me wonder if there are other missions with quicker strategies that I haven't been able to figure out myself. I welcome all suggestions.

    I've attached my splits and the Youtube link to the video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKa0jNvqoKk

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  • B8factor
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    I play campaigns from a different perspective. I treat each unit as if it carries vital human (kharakian) lives. I try hard to replay missions with as little life loss as possible. I often can make a small mission last far longer than may need be to succeed at the mission. One thing I do miss in this game is the stats on the campaign on lost ships! I have to do the math... bah, haha.

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